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Occupy Ron Paul?

Through my travels to numerous big city occupation sites on the East Coast, including Wall Street itself,  I have noticed a bizarre phenomenon that has me completely baffled and, on occasion, has actually left me sleepless : Ron Paul fans.

Really? Seriously?  Libertarian supporters of #Occupy? I thought no 1%, well established-in-the-political-system “leader” could or would change the policies of America for the better. And let’s face it, Ron Paul has been on and off in Congress for over 30 years; he may not receive any PAC cash, but plenty of individuals involved in the financial world have donated to his campaign. His net worth alone ranges from almost two million to over five million and that definitely does not make him part of the 99%.

Now, I have no problem with other people’s political affiliations; (even though I don’t personally believe that elections do anything given that corporations make all the policies) everyone has the right to argue with each other over issues, but the core individualism, isolationism and  laissez-faire economics of the Libertarian belief system does not fit the communal and socialist ideals of #Occupy. Out of what only can be described as morbid curiosity, I decided to ask some of these folks why they have this affection for a man who is anti-organized labor, pro-nuclear and petrol energy, against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and would overturn Roe v. Wade; all of which is not a collective view from what I have seen to be involved in the Occupy movement. I was utterly shocked at my findings; these were not Libertarians, they were  progressives.

Not being either Libertarian or Progressive myself (but thoroughly understanding both schools of thought), I decided to further my research into this seemingly paradoxical view to make sense of such a concept. I decided the best way to approach this complex outlook would be to make a  list according to the demands proposed by #Occupy Wall Street’s General Assembly and compare it to the views expressed by Ron Paul himself.

#Occupy suggested: Policies to reduce/eliminate corporate influence in politics, eliminate corporate personhood, overturn Citizens United versus Federal Election Commission (2008 Supreme Court decision), campaign finance reform, election finance reform, public financing of elections.

Ron Paul: With regards to Citizens United, Paul said, “You should never restrict lobbying because the Constitution is rather clear about the people being allowed to petition Congress, and whether you’re an individual or you belong to a [special interest group] … you should be allowed to do that.” He argues that corporations should be able to spend their money in any way that they want. Paul also stated that “Corporations don’t have rights per se, but the individual who happens to own a corporation or belong to a union does have rights, and these rights are not lost by merely acting through another organization.”

- Paul, Ron (2011). Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom. New York: Grand Central Publishing. pp.28-31.

#Occupy suggested: Policies to reform the tax structure that includes progressive taxes, raise taxes on income above US $200k, increase taxes on corporations, make corporations pay their fair share of taxes, taxing financial transactions, eliminate tax loopholes, tax code that favors the middle class.

Ron Paul: Lowering corporate taxes to 15% (down from 35%). Let US companies repatriate capital tax-free. Extend all Bush tax cuts, and abolish income, capital gains, estate and personal savings taxes as well as the IRS. Provide more tax credits and deductions. Rely on excise taxes, non-protectionist tariffs, fees, and minimal corporate ones.

#Occupy suggested: Policies to create jobs, program for full employment, real jobs program, universal jobs program, organized discussion on jobs.

Ron Paul: Paul opposes hard-won labor rights, having voted against the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) provisions to let workers “form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and other purposes.”

#Occupy suggested: Policies related to healthcare, universal healthcare, single-payer healthcare, nationalize healthcare, affordable healthcare.

Ron Paul: Paul says that contrary to what most Americans believe, access to health care is not a right, but a good whose value should be determined by the free market.

In 2003, Paul went against the majority of Republicans and voted to block implementation of the Medicare Part D program, which expanded Medicare to cover the costs of medications for the elderly and disabled, and which prohibited the government from negotiating directly with pharmaceutical companies to try to get lower prices for the covered medications. Paul  voted against re-authorization and expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which is a joint state-federal program to provide health insurance for children and pregnant women in low-income families who do not qualify for Medicaid. Paul was the only member of the entire Congress to vote against the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act in 2008, which prohibits health insurers and employers from discriminating against an individual on the basis of carrying a gene(s) that is associated with an increased risk for developing a disease. Paul opposes the federal law that requires physicians to treat all patients who go to emergency rooms seeking medical care regardless of the patient’s ability to pay.

He asserts that the law is unconstitutional. Paul opposes laws that require health insurance to cover pre-existing conditions. He argues that “once insurance companies are required by government to ensure against preconditions, it’s no longer insurance – it’s a social welfare mandate.

#Occupy suggested:  Policies related to the environment and energy, eliminate use of coal, decrease dependence on oil, carbon free dividend system, green technology.

Ron Paul: Paul says he opposes government assistance to private businesses intended to help shape research and investment decisions, including to promote alternative energy production and use. Also, in
an October 2007 interview, Paul, whose congressional district’s largest companies are Dow Chemical, the former Union Carbide (a subsidiary of Dow Chemical since 2001), and many petrochemical companies, held that climate change is not a “major problem threatening civilization.” He also believes that nuclear energy is a clean and efficient potential alternative.

#Occupy suggested: Anti-war policies, end wars,  abolish war policy ,end United States’ incursion in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop sending soldiers.

Ron Paul: Paul has made it very clear on numerous occasions that it is not okay to  invade other countries that are of no threat to the United States. He also is a big proponent on bringing troops home from military bases around the world and stopping all foreign aid. In 2007, Paul said, “There’s nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today… we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we’re acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons.”

#Occupy suggested: Policies to reform education, improve education, Serious overhaul of education, debt forgiveness for student loans.

Ron Paul: Paul has been an outspoken advocate of dismantling the public school system and replacing them with privatized or home schooling. He has stated that “the federal government has absolutely no role in education” under the Constitution, “regardless of what the Supreme Court has claimed.” He also  says “education is not a right.” He opposes all federal government scholarships and government loans for higher education, but is supportive of the offering of financial aid by private organizations.

Okay, so now that there is a set list of views expressed by both sides, lets see what Ron Paul has in common with #Occupy :

Is it the corporate intervention in politics? No.
Is it the tax reform? Er, eh, no.
Is it the labor issue? Still no.
Is it health care reform? Clearly not.
Is it on energy? Wow, no way.
Is it education? Haha try again.
Okay, one last shot. Foreign policy? YES!

Wow!!! they have ONE thing in common! Let’s all vote Ron Paul because he is against war (insert other sarcastic remarks as needed)!

But in all seriousness, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And to compromise on all the other beliefs just because you found a candidate who is as strongly opposed to war as you are is just not conceivable. This man clearly wants to privatize everything and let the “free market” be the rule of the land, leaving behind the poor and the underprivileged to fend for themselves. If people in this country were so concerned about war and foreign policy as they all claim to be, why then, did the country not all go for Ralph Nader?

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Andrea Egizi is an anti-war activist involved in the organization of Occupy Atlantic City.

 

14 Comments to Occupy Ron Paul?

  1. Dorothy Reilly // April 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm // Reply

    Ron Paul: Campaign Finance/Money – Summary – Representative
    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?CID=N00005906

    S.F. billionaire quietly funds Ron Paul super PAC
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/25/MNCJ1NC7I4.DTL&ao=all

    More PACs working on Paul’s behalf are listed here – money may not be funneled directly to his campaign but they are spending it on ads etc…
    Pro-Ron Paul PAC misses $$$ deadline, blames credit card company
    http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/01/10284912-pro-ron-paul-pac-misses-deadline-blames-credit-card-company

    From an article written in November of 2007
    “$483,999 from PACs has come into Ron Paul’s coffers since 1996 and that includes $246,497 from businesses”…
    Ron Paul’s Contributions From Corporations and PACs
    http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/24/1119999-ron-pauls-contributions-from-corporations-and-pacs

  2. Dorothy Reilly // April 23, 2012 at 12:23 pm // Reply

    I did it the last time and will not doing it again…I will not vote lesser of evils again. I totally agree with the author’s excellent article about Paul and with her surprise that many of his supporters self-identify as “progressives”. Many of us did not do our research on Obama and we need to learn from that mistake. As far as Ron Paul I would suggest that we not jump from one frying pan into another. From Andrea’s research it seems that the main reason “progressives” support him is because he against war…I’m not sure his rhetoric matches reality…Ron Paul is only planning to cut defense by 15% – that says he is not serious about ending all wars and closing bases because that figure should be more like 85% if he was for real. Also he voted to go into Afghanistan so he is not necessarily “Mr. Antiwar”. On other issues,he is part of the establishment voting more than 75% of the time with the republicans (Dems suck just as much but years ago they at least voted the correct way some of the time) which says to me he not “Mr. Independent -minded” either. And he is part of the 1%. His plans to privatize everything is very very dangerous – there is reason to have some form of government to make sure people with less have basic needs met – we just have a corrupt government right now but it doesn’t have to be this way if we stopped supporting people with no compassion. Paul is for eliminating all safety nets. He is anti-environment and he is anti-women – only men are allowed libertarian principles of control over their own body. He is anti-immigrant and racist, part of the crazy fundamentalist Christian religion and doesn’t believe in evolution (give me strength), and he spawned Rand Paul. He has denounced a connection with 9/11 truth. I could go on but i will leave it at that. Idolizing any one person has turned out to be very dangerous. We need a complete change of our system of governance and totally new people, not more of what we have.

  3. RON PAUL 2012

    He is not racist..research better on that, he is anti-creating laws to make people free, rather then creating laws that define racism and caused more troubles then they fixed.

    He is not sexist either, as his beliefe in creating laws to create “equality” are more damaging because they just define, not solve.

    He is anti-immigrant in which he believes supporting illegal immigrants who do not properly go through due process to become a citizen should not receive the treatments our natural citizens and those immigrants who properly became naturalized and put the extra effort in to become citizens struggle to get, for free. And that is bullshit. I have o work my ass off and pay for insurance, where an illegal immigrant who does absolutely nothing, are not taxed like I am, receive medical aid and treatment for free. that makes total sense.

    if you think that is logical, get your head out of your ass.

    Ron Paul maybe Christian based and a Republican, but so were the greats like Abe LIncoln and Thomas Jefferson, yes these are different times. but its just as hard then as it is now, and Ron Paul could actually get shit done, thats what we need, not someone who is gonna be a camera hungry PR franchise…which he is not.

    • Andrea Egizi // April 24, 2012 at 9:28 am // Reply

      I feel your frustration indeed, Ian. But if you want to put blame on immigrants, that is the wrong vent. I work in a field where most of my co-workers are from Latin and South America and I have heard their stories of extreme poverty. I have asked most of them over the years if they ever considered becoming an American citizen and the answer is always the same: The process is long,complicated and not guaranteed. I have heard horror stories of applications being in process and still being threatened to be deported. Also keep in mind that the governments of these poorer countries are being manipulated economically by the United States so we can import and exploit their goods and services. Why do you think countries like Venezuela refuse to do business directly with the US? The back room deals between their leaders and our leaders lead to what can only be described as slave labor. And lets face it, the immigrants here in this country are all not living extravagant lives. Some live with multiple families in a small dwelling and get paid crap. I don’t put the blame on the immigrant… I put the blame on the shoddy governments. Remember why these people come to the US in the first place… to take care of their families.

  4. Something quite disturbing is happening with occupy… It seems to have been hijacked with demagoguery and the Democratic party… Certain people just hijacked the movement from the get go… For me it is proven fact as I have taken quite a few trips to quietly observe and talk to occupiers in both NYC and my local occupation in Philly… I’ve recorded some despicable acts on video during these excursions… As easy as it is to judge the whole of occupy by these acts, I can’t in good conscious… I know there are good people with good ideas still involved… But if everyone thinks like Andrea Egizi, then occupy is doomed…
    A person that misrepresents the facts and misconstrues information and quotes, well that’s just part of what has marginalized the occupy movement in general… I have witnessed enough verbal assaults from occupy on good people that are trying to make a difference in our screwed up society in their own way…It seems like every time someone who has a different way to skin that cat, someone like this goes on a crusade in their own mind…
    Now for almost thirty years I have remembered listening to Ron Paul in the news talk about all these problems, years before they even happened… Crazy Uncle Ron… I followed along with my family tradition regardless over the years and voted democratic… This past primary was the last time I make the same mistake… Voting for either side of the left right paradigm is a trap for the simple, remember that RP is really a Libertarian in Republican garb this go around… Blindly following mob rule or group think in an occupy is even more dangerous… It will end up leaving the government the option to declare martial law…
    Now if occupy, or the people in occupy more accurately, could actually embrace the concept of all-inclusiveness, occupy could have a rebirth this summer… But with more baseless attacks on anybody that has an idea that differs but still gets to a solution, it doesn’t look good… Ron Paul even when he got mic checked said “I’m on your side”… And everything I’ve seen and read doesn’t detract from that statement…
    But as Andrea pointed out… The socialists and communists inside of occupy want to take over completely, with the usual propaganda of course… And that does seem to tie in well with Obomber who embraced occupy early on and seems to have his own sorted history with the socialist and communist movements… But I digress…
    These “ists” and black bloc, and some intimidation tactics have what really driven people off, with valid reason… So maybe instead of bashing people who have a tendency to be individuals that have their own ideas… Maybe the Occupy movement will do the right thing in repentance and openly invited all ideas and walks of life, and I don’t know, maybe incorporating those ideas… Because I still haven’t seen anything set in stone from occupy on how to fix our society… Just lots of conjecture from the same handful of people…
    Maybe then occupy will grow into something that could actually serve it’s fellow man and not act like just another special interest group… Because as fast as the Tea Party crew was co-opted, this movement was faster at being co-opted and took it to a whole new level…
    So now to pick apart Andrea’s article… Reference sources are linked at the end… I know you must be feeling salty when Ron Paul came to Philly and pulled over 4000 followers the other day… Why, that’s more numbers then Occupy Philly gets in a month… Maybe occupy should have taken my advice on being all inclusive after all…
    “#Occupy suggested: Policies to reduce/eliminate corporate influence in politics, eliminate corporate personhood, overturn Citizens United versus Federal Election Commission (2008 Supreme Court decision), campaign finance reform, election finance reform, public financing of elections.
    Ron Paul: With regards to Citizens United, Paul said, “You should never restrict lobbying because the Constitution is rather clear about the people being allowed to petition Congress, and whether you’re an individual or you belong to a [special interest group] … you should be allowed to do that.” He argues that corporations should be able to spend their money in any way that they want. Paul also stated that ”Corporations don’t have rights per se, but the individual who happens to own a corporation or belong to a union does have rights, and these rights are not lost by merely acting through another organization.”
    - Paul, Ron (2011). Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom. New York: Grand Central Publishing. pp.28-31.”
    Now I searched the whole book and I find nothing even resembling your quotes in pages 28-31… Failed paraphrasing perhaps??? All I see is a very practical and logical view point from Ron Paul… Now the closest thing I can interpret from the section of the book dealing with Campaign Finance Reform and actually mentions Citizens United is that it has been a futile struggle of a fight… A real quote is below…
    “Campaign laws simply won’t solve the problem. Even if stricter laws were passed, the stakes are so great that the financing would just go underground (or under the table), as is not infrequently done under current conditions. The corruption is not eliminated; it merely takes other forms. As bad as the process is, there is an even worse solution offered: taxpayer-financed elections. Talk about abusing rights!”

    Page 84 in the PDF version of the book in question is in regards to lobbying and has something he said similar to your 1st quote… It also says… “The only option we have under today’s conditions of runaway government is to send to Washington only representatives who will have the character to resist the temptation to blend in with the crowd. There is tremendous pressure on new members on their arrival to be “team players,” with the promise of committee assignments and rewards for their districts, and to accept the well-entrenched notion that idealism is not well received in Washington, especially by one’s party’s leadership. This is especially true if the President and the congressional leadership are members of your party.”

    “#Occupy suggested: Policies to reform the tax structure that includes progressive taxes, raise taxes on income above US $200k, increase taxes on corporations, make corporations pay their fair share of taxes, taxing financial transactions, eliminate tax loopholes, tax code that favors the middle class.
    Ron Paul: Lowering corporate taxes to 15% (down from 35%). Let US companies repatriate capital tax-free. Extend all Bush tax cuts, and abolish income, capital gains, estate and personal savings taxes as well as the IRS. Provide more tax credits and deductions. Rely on excise taxes, non-protectionist tariffs, fees, and minimal corporate ones.”
    He wants to cut taxes by lowering the corporate tax to 15%, allowing companies to repatriate capital without taxation, and ending the death tax and taxes on personal savings… Plus repeal capital gains taxes… Eliminate taxes on tips… Allow tax credits for private and home schooling, alternative energy vehicles, and health care… Lower and eventually eliminate the double-taxation on Social Security benefits… Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the income tax… Now if we go back to that 15% one… I think that is better than the incestuous revolving door between corporations and government… Adding more regulation or higher than 15% corporate tax won’t help anything… It’ll make it worse… And more big companies will move their jobs overseas taking jobs from US citizens… Like crApple in China… Oh wait… You crApple fans that pay for overpriced Chinese slave labor products via FoxConn components are all over occupy… My bad (well your bad really)…
    “#Occupy suggested: Policies to create jobs, program for full employment, real jobs program, universal jobs program, organized discussion on jobs.
    Ron Paul: Paul opposes hard-won labor rights, having voted against the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) provisions to let workers “form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and other purposes.””
    Well besides the EFCA being unconstitutional it has many flaws… When 50% of the said employees sign their union cards it becomes a “card check”… The employer can now take his time with his employees and see which he wants to fire that might give him problem with this union biz… Much more to read up on this topic… Now for me, I’ve traveled the country a bit and have lived in union states and right to work states… Held both types of jobs… Never liked the idea of somebody I didn’t ask to represent me telling me When I can work and when I can strike… Garnishing my wages for someone elses slush fund and union dues… And everything else on the job for that matter… I’ve always gotten more raises and better pay by taking responsibility for my own job employment and actions… I have no interest in working for a union that then works for the company I originally applied to… No thanks… Now Ron Paul’s view is…
    “Unemployment continues to plague our economy. In spite of constant claims that we have just turned the corner into recovery, the jobs reports remain grim with no real signs of improvement. While Keynesian economists and big government apologists scratch their heads about persistent unemployment in spite of unprecedented government “investment” in the economy, free market economists understand the problem perfectly well. In short, they understand that we are looking to the Federal Reserve to solve an unemployment crisis that the Fed itself largely created.”

    “#Occupy suggested: Policies related to healthcare, universal healthcare, single-payer healthcare, nationalize healthcare, affordable healthcare.
    Ron Paul: Paul says that contrary to what most Americans believe, access to health care is not a right, but a good whose value should be determined by the free market.
    In 2003, Paul went against the majority of Republicans and voted to block implementation of the Medicare Part D program, which expanded Medicare to cover the costs of medications for the elderly and disabled, and which prohibited the government from negotiating directly with pharmaceutical companies to try to get lower prices for the covered medications. Paul voted against re-authorization and expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which is a joint state-federal program to provide health insurance for children and pregnant women in low-income families who do not qualify for Medicaid. Paul was the only member of the entire Congress to vote against the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act in 2008, which prohibits health insurers and employers from discriminating against an individual on the basis of carrying a gene(s) that is associated with an increased risk for developing a disease. Paul opposes the federal law that requires physicians to treat all patients who go to emergency rooms seeking medical care regardless of the patient’s ability to pay.
    He asserts that the law is unconstitutional. Paul opposes laws that require health insurance to cover pre-existing conditions. He argues that “once insurance companies are required by government to ensure against preconditions, it’s no longer insurance – it’s a social welfare mandate.”
    You do realize he is the only politician that consistently and rightfully only votes what he interprets as constitutional??? You do realize that he is a medical doctor as well as a self-taught economist??? He actually knows what he is talking about here…
    “There is only one solution that will lead to true health and true freedom: making health care more affordable. Ron Paul believes that only true free market competition will put pressure on the providers and force them to lower their costs to remain in business. Additionally, Ron Paul wants to change the tax code to allow individual Americans to fully deduct all health care costs from their taxes.
    Through these measures and the elimination of government-sponsored health care monopolies a much larger number of people will be able to finally access affordable health care, either by paying for medical insurance or by covering their medical expenses, which are now much lower, out of their own pocket.
    As for the poor and the severely ill who can neither obtain insurance nor pay for the medical care they need, Ron Paul offers the following solution in his book “The Revolution: A Manifesto“:
    In the days before Medicare and Medicaid, the poor and elderly were admitted to hospitals at the same rate they are now, and received good care. Before those programs came into existence, every physician understood that he or she had a responsibility towards the less fortunate and free medical care was the norm. Hardly anyone is aware of this today, since it doesn’t fit into the typical, by the script story of government rescuing us from a predatory private sector.
    Illegal aliens already receive de-facto free health care. Why can’t poor Americans have the same… not as a right, but as a charitable benefit provided by doctors who feel a personal responsibility for their fellow citizens?
    Unfortunately, the current medical monopoly corrupts many doctors by rewarding practices that are not in the patients’ best interest. Pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in not curing people, but getting them permanently addicted to expensive drugs that have many side effects, thereby requiring additional drugs to suppress those side effects. Many doctors are afraid to speak up and question the system for fear of being ostracized by their peers or even losing their license.
    Under a liberated health care system prices would come down and additional options would become available, thereby making health care much more affordable. Moral corruption would give way to true compassion, and many doctors would remember their implicit obligation to provide free medical care to those in need, just like they did in the past.
    As a medical doctor, Ron Paul swore the Hippocratic Oath many decades ago. His entire person and career is a monument to the beauty and sanctity of human life. Ron Paul knows that life without health can be very difficult and is not what it was meant to be. He has personally cared for the poor for many years, without asking anything in return.”

    “#Occupy suggested: Policies related to the environment and energy, eliminate use of coal, decrease dependence on oil, carbon free dividend system, green technology.
    Ron Paul: Paul says he opposes government assistance to private businesses intended to help shape research and investment decisions, including to promote alternative energy production and use. Also, in an October 2007 interview, Paul, whose congressional district’s largest companies are Dow Chemical, the former Union Carbide (a subsidiary of Dow Chemical since 2001), and many petrochemical companies, held that climate change is not a “major problem threatening civilization.” He also believes that nuclear energy is a clean and efficient potential alternative.”
    “Congressman Paul’s views on man-made global warming have evolved slightly over the year. In a 2007 interview at the beginning of his Presidential bid, Congressman Paul noted that man may be contributing slightly to the problem, but that more work needed to be done. In 2009, he supported legislation to subsidize the purchase of more fuel efficient vehicles in part to assist in pollution reduction. At later times, Congressman Paul has called the idea a hoax, noting that the phrase “global warming” is not longer used as temperatures have not been rising. He notes the new language of “climate change” in use to address this disparity.
    Congressman Paul supports expanded exploration and drilling for oil and natural gas on and offshore. He notes that the oil industry is one of the most heavily regulated and subsidized industries and that if all those facets were removed, private industry would create more competition which would lead to lower gas and energy prices. He states that the problem that causes inflated prices is not price gouging or a lack of regulation, but rather a lack of competition which is brought on by regulation and bureaucracy that make new competition in the market almost impossible. In 2006, Congressman Paul supported legislation to streamline the permitting process for oil drilling sites. In 2010, he stated that exploration and refinement of oil is simply none of the government’s business.
    In the past, Congressman Paul has noted that protection of the environment is not a function that the Constitution allows the federal government to perform. He has therefore called for an end to the EPA. To address any possible pollution, Congressman Paul has stated that private property rights should function in this aspect as no man has the right to pollute another person’s land, water, or air. He notes that if government regulation of the environment were removed and ill environment effects were addressed on a private property level, then the cost of any pollution would be built into the cost of that particular energy model. The best energy model would then prevail and would be the one that best balances the cost to bring the product to market and the effects it has on the environment.
    Congressman Paul supports nuclear, wind, solar, and any other forms of energy production, However, he opposes subsidies to them as he does not believe that the federal government has the right to take money from one person to subsidize the energy desires of another. However, Congressman Paul has sponsored legislation to provide tax incentives to alternative energy sources.
    Congressman Paul opposes cap-and-trade and other carbon taxes to regulate carbon emissions. In addition to skepticism about the need to regulate such emissions and the belief that the subject should be handled by private property rights, Congressman Paul has stated that the system would lead to a flight of jobs and capital from the US.”

    #Occupy suggested: Policies to reform education, improve education, Serious overhaul of education, debt forgiveness for student loans.
    Ron Paul: Paul has been an outspoken advocate of dismantling the public school system and replacing them with privatized or home schooling. He has stated that “the federal government has absolutely no role in education” under the Constitution, “regardless of what the Supreme Court has claimed.” He also says “education is not a right.” He opposes all federal government scholarships and government loans for higher education, but is supportive of the offering of financial aid by private organizations.
    “Ron Paul holds the Constitutional view – the federal government has no authority to oversee education. Just look at the mess that the central-planning bureaucracy has gotten us: education costs more than ever and the quality has dropped significantly – two results that are seen time and time again when government gets involved. It is the families’ role to educate their children and all government involvement should take place as close to home as possible.
    As President, Ron Paul will abolish the federal Department of Education and return the role of education to the states, local communities, and parents.
    “I think that the smallest level of government possible best performs education. Teachers, parents, and local community leaders should be making decisions about exactly how our children should be taught, not Washington bureaucrats.” – Ron Paul
    Dr. Paul also supports tax credits of $5,000 per child for parents who wish to homeschool their children. Why should those parents be subject to paying for the education of others while they incur the entire cost of educating their own children?
    Additionally, Ron Paul would phase out all federally-backed student loans. This wealth-transferring government attempt to help people get a college education has generated an economic bubble much like the housing bubble that just collapsed. The government involvement has driven up costs and driven quality down. American college graduates have over $1 Trillion in debt and there are no jobs. When government gets out of the way, prices will drop significantly and alternative forms of education like apprenticeships will rightfully hold more value.”

    Sources:
    http://www.ragingchickenpress.org/2012/04/20/occupy-ron-paul/
    http://whyronpaul.com/
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/
    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/
    http://www.nolanchart.com/article6060-a-libertarian-alternative-to-the-efca.html
    http://www.thetruthaboutefca.com/
    http://www.climatelobby.com/fee-and-dividend/
    http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/House/Texas/Ron_Paul/Views/
    http://bluerepublican.org
    PDF copy of: Liberty Defined – 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom

    P.S. I have been involved with occupy philly since its early planning meetings and created the original occupyphilly.org website… I will continue to be involved even if the bulk of OP doesn’t like my opinions… Tough titty… I’m an individual and I’ll occupy my own way… For years I’ve been an activist writing my senators and congressmen and will continue to do so… I’ve actually received replies from government officials that just want to know about our society’s issues… Why??? Because they don’t know wtf is going on… So get involved in politics again people… You have no right to complain if you don’t…

    • Andrea Egizi // April 25, 2012 at 1:29 pm // Reply

      Slothman, thank you for taking the time to read my article and critique it. You made my point valid in doing so by bringing out the full quotes which I cut for time/space/length. Ron Paul is not in compliance with MAJORITY of Occupy beliefs. I admire your passion for keeping Occupy going and I was in no way involved with OP and have played no part in its initial downfall. I think you missed my point, I was merely side by side comparing him to what Occupy Wall Street had proposed. I had no intention in trying to further divide anyone or any group, I just felt this article needed to be written to explain to people who maybe do not understand either or both sides. If you are offended, then I apologize. This was not supposed to be a hit piece on anyone or any group.

      • Andrea Egizi // April 25, 2012 at 1:31 pm // Reply

        and also, I am NOT politically affiliated with ANY party… so please also do not think I have a political motive.

        • No problem and I must apologize… I was up all night and just quit smoking and put myself on a diet… I’m a little twitchy and irritable… You may not have intended a bash fest but you did reuse a fox photo that was Photoshopped to make Ron Paul look worse than what old age imposes on any one individual… I think if the Occupy movement in general was spending less time bashing what is perceived as opposition and spent more time inviting all the different parties and ideologies into occupy, we could actually grow numbers and do some serious marches… As far as comparing viewpoints… I think there are multiple ways to get to the same conclusion… But if ows or other occupies are just going to back one ideology it will be doomed to epic fail… Regardless… I have three small children that I need to secure a safe and prosperous nation for… As long as my heart still beats I’ll keep harassing the government and calling shenanigans until I succeed… As crazy as it sounds… I have met a couple good politicians here and there… I still think if enough activists, even arm chair activists, can rally together, we can force our civil servants to do what needs to be done… I know I’m dreaming… I do apologize if I was short… But dealing with occupies for a while makes you twitchy… I think I might go harass the Ron Paul crew for a change of pace every now and then…

          • Andrea Egizi // April 25, 2012 at 8:37 pm //

            Thank you for your input and keep fighting for a better world! I will be side by side with you if the spit goes down :)

  5. So, the occupy movement generally opposes nuclear energy? Even modern reactors, as are used in France or will be constructed in the US, which provide energy cheaper than coal power with passive safety systems? Ok, well I know I don’t support Occupy at all.

    In so far as Occupy, as a political movement, is able to stymie nuclear power, will only serve to increase our reliance on older nuclear plants, coal power and natural gas. This has been the lesson of Germany, as Germany has loudly proclaimed its reliance on green energy and shut down nuclear plants, they have built ever more coal power plants.

    If you succeed in the US, that will be the result here as well. Consider how impractical and expensive it is to live off the grid, with solar or wind power and hundreds of pounds of lead acid batteries, multiply this by 300 million. Those same problems, of energy storage, intermittent generation and high cost are not solved by increasing the magnitude of the problem.

    If occupy is serious about strengthening the middle class, it should seek to provide cheap clean energy, which in turn would help keep manufacturing jobs and a higher standard of living for all. Without cheap energy, all the idealistic rhetoric in the world is meaningless. If you are bothered by the nature of the ownership of nuclear power plants, then push for a national construction plan, as France did. Also, please note that Nuclear plants have some of the strongest unions and provide a safe working environment. By going after nuclear power, you are just serving the interests of the union busting coal and natural gas lobby, who would love nothing more than the demand for their noxious product to increase 40%.

    • http://www.npua.org/

      Also, note that Nuclear Power plant construction almost uniformly requires the most skilled trained specialists, and therefore a great boon to the unionized trades. Green power on the other hand relies heavily on imported parts from China, slapped together by someone with a few weeks or months training and little or no job protection. At the same time, it’s usually owned by the same union busting companies that own coal and natural gas power plants, and allows them to greenwash their dirty energy.

  6. Otis B. Driftwood // July 24, 2012 at 10:06 am // Reply

    I love you Andrea Egizi!

  7. What Ron Paul have in common with the Occupy Wall Street movement,
    FACT: The Federal Reserve is the #1 number problem, Ron Paul passed bill to audit them,
    FACT: The War On Drugs he wants to decriminalize certain drugs,cut down on prison industrial complex spending,cuts down on Stop and Frisk,and inmate population count per capital.
    FACT: He’s Anti-War which is literally bankrupting this country because of Iraq and Afghanistan,
    FACT: Cutting foreign aid spending another critical issue this country is face with, that is bankrupting this place,
    FACT: Closing some defense sending by closing some of the over 700 foreign bases,
    FACT: For reforming North American Free Trade Agreement{NAFTA}which would bring jobs back here.
    FACT: For signing the Glass Steagall Act,which would regulates banks lending practices,
    FACT: Voted against NDAA,SOPA,CISPA,and the Patriot Act,
    Just some of the numerous reasons to vote for him,that he have in common with Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movement that were over looked.

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